Tolerating Mistakes

When playing WoW with a group of people, mistakes are going to be made, people are going to display lack of awareness and subpar ability. Depending on who you play with, this might happen a lot. Mistakes are reacted to in different ways. Why is one laughed off while another makes you think the person making the mistake is a total noob?

First, there’s familiarity with the people you’re running with. Let’s say I’m in Forge of Souls and I fall off the walkway. Not that I’ve ever done that. ::cough:: If I’m in a group with guildies, they’re likely to laugh at me, will probably bring it up at every opportunity for the next month, but their opinions of me don’t change because of it. They know this kind of mistake isn’t the norm and won’t write me off as a moron. However, if I’m in a PuG with people I’ve never played with before, there’s a good chance at least some of them will think I’m an idiot, and will probably tell me so in party chat. Personally I don’t tend to be this judgemental of PuGs but there is certainly a difference between how harshly I view these kinds of mistakes depending on who makes them.

Moving more towards raiding with a set group, it’s the repeat offenders that really push my buttons. Anyone can run into a Malleable Goo that was targeted at someone else or get hit with the occasional cleave. It happens. You’re allowed an off-night every once in a while or a momentary lapse in concentration. But the ones who get hit with these things all the time? The ones whose gear score is consistently higher than their dps? I wish I could attach electrodes to their chairs and zap them into a higher level of awareness.

I am most judgemental of people who play my class(es) because I’m familiar with what they should be doing, but there are some other things that annoy me as well. On the top of my list of raiding annoyances:

  • Druids who don’t use Barkskin. Barkskin is like a band aid for mistakes. Lag on Sindragosa and get caught in a Blistering cold? Barkskin and you won’t die. Miss a stack of the debuff on heroic Festergut? Barkskin during the Pungent Blight and no one will be the wiser.
  • Resto druids who stop healing when they move. The ability to heal on the move is one of the biggest benefits of the class, use it!
  • Hunters who don’t misdirect. I hate going through logs and seeing 0 or maybe 1 MD from a hunter on aggro sensitive fights. Yes, you can feign death, but not every class can. Stop being lazy and help out the rest of your raid group.
  • Hunters who don’t use Deterrence or Disengage.
  • Hunters who get hit by Blood Beasts on Suarfang.
  • Players (of any class) who don’t cleanse or decurse.
  • Paladins who just can’t figure out blessings and auras (and refuse to get Pally Power).
  • Melee who don’t run away from Vengeful shades
  • Anyone who gets hit by Frost Bombs or stands in Slime Spray more than once in a blue moon.

What are your biggest annoyances in raids? Which mistakes do you not tolerate?

14 responses to “Tolerating Mistakes

  1. Here here! I completly agree with the not using Barkskin and the not healing while running. Or Mages that will not help Decurse when there is only one other decurser in the group. That really pushes my buttons. Like you mentioned, we have one player in our raid that will NEVER move out of Slime Spray. Not once! He just stands there and does DPS. Healers just wont heal him when he does it now and he still has not learned…sigh!

    • I find it's mostly healers in my groups that stand in Slime Spray. "But I can heal myself" they say. Sure, but someone taking unavoidable damage could use those heals more.

  2. I think of this list the biggest one for me is definitely hunters not using MD. I agree with a lot of the things you said, but this is just ridiculous. Does MD even use a GCD? And on most fights there are plenty of opportunities where the Global would have been wasted anyways, give the tank a boost!

    • It does use a GCD, but as you say, there are lots of opportunities to use it. I find misdirecting frequently much less of a pain in the butt than having to feign death all the time.


    • Hunters put out a huge amount of threat, if I didn't MD often on a lot of fights (Rotface seems to be the worst) I would pull threat when my FD was on cooldown. I hate when the other hunters don't help out by MDing when they see other people approaching the tank's threat.

  4. My two pet peeves aren't really class specific:
    1 – People not learning from experience. If you die then you probably did something wrong. If someone else seems to be performing much better than you then you're probably doing something wrong. Stop assuming that doing the same thing is going to yield different results. Put forth the initiative to figure out what's wrong (dying repeatedly? Ask for advice from someone in the fight who -isn't- dying!) and become better.
    Laziness and expecting to be spoonfed irritates me.

    Which leads to my 2nd, and far greater pet peeve:
    2 – Not asking questions when you don't understand or could use assistance or clarification makes me want to stab things.
    Pay attention. If you don't understand what's happening, happened, or going to happen, just ask! If you don't want to interrupt a raid leader by asking out loud, whisper someone who knows what's going on. Please.

  5. Melee attacking from the front and getting cleaved. It's melee 101. It's probably the first thing someone told me when I started to raid on my warrior. So WHY oh why does our enh shaman keep doing it! I simply can't understand why someone who wants to do heroic modes needs to be told at least once per raid not to stand in front of the fucking boss. RAGE. (Last night he asked to come to the ICC10 alt run on his hasn't-been-played-in-a-year-warlock. The highest ilvl he had was 226. He managed a whopping 3.1k DPS on Ignis. Ok, I think my pet peeve is idiots who expect us to carry them and whine away when we don't.)

    Also, guilty as charged on the Barkskin. I try to remember it, but ugh… unless we're doing a heroic and I'm super focused ("Marrowgar is going to spin and it hurts, barkskinbarkskin"), I won't use it. And probably die in a stupid way.

    That not healing on the move thing baffles me… seriously? Maybe the players come from a different healing class? I know it's hard for me to NOT jump around while healing on my pally/shaman, I'm so used to moving, Rejuving, moving, Rejuving…

    • I'm lucky enough to not raid with any melee who attacks from the front. They may cop an occasional cleave from adds that are moving around (especially on Deathwhisper), but it's not too big of a problem. When I run heroics on my tank though at least half the melee dps I come across dps from the front.

      I have a paw-shaped power aura that lights up on my character every time Barkskin is off cooldown. It's a good reminder.

  6. Shócktopus

    healers who die from constant auras like that of sindragosa, HEAL YOURSELF GODDAMNIT (or use glyph of healing wave like i do =D)

    • That Glyph certainly comes in handy on some fights.

      I think a lot of healers suffer from tunnel vision on those high damge fights. They watch everyone's health but their own. (Not that I'm excusing it, they should really learn to heal themselves).

  7. My pet peeve is retarded Resto Shamans using PvP glyphs in PVE :p

  8. I hate enhancement shaman who go through Marrowgar and Deathwhisper before realizing they haven't used Windfury and Flametongue…Oh wait… >.>

    I can't stand DPS that can't switch targets when they're supposed to. Either not knowing (Despite everyone else switching) or just refusing to. They can just die in a fire…Which with the level of stupidity it takes to not realize they should be attacking what everyone else is on, they probably will.